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Freitag, 14. November 2008, 17:25

RE: 18mm

Ups- 18mm: wie machst du denn den Zenith ??

habe einfach geschätzt und mal je 50 up/down und eine 0 Reihe fotografiert. Der Zenith war mit den von NN vorgeschlagenen Einstelldaten sofort optimal. Ich kann aber auch ein 90 Grad Foto machen.

Hast du den MK II Rotator von NN ??


jaaaa 

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Freitag, 14. November 2008, 17:48

MK II

Hm und du kannst +90 aufnehmen ??
NN3 / MK II ??

Ist denn die Canon 40D so viel größer ??
Hätte ich nicht geglaubt.

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Freitag, 14. November 2008, 18:08

schau hier

habe mal zwei Bilder aufgenommen. Allerdings kann ich keine 360 Grad Drehung machen. Istja auch nicht nötig.
»murrer« hat folgende Dateien angehängt:
  • NN 001.jpg (164,83 kB - 903 mal heruntergeladen - zuletzt: 29. September 2025, 13:52)
  • NN 002.jpg (152,59 kB - 864 mal heruntergeladen - zuletzt: 14. Oktober 2025, 15:43)

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Freitag, 14. November 2008, 18:16

Bilder..

Jürgen,
Danke dir

Da ist also doch ein gewaltiger Unterschied.
Die EOS 40D ist um einganz klein wenig größer -> es passt um ca 1-2 cm nicht.

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Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2008, 16:36

Hi - I've been trying to muddle through the translated version of this thread and didn't know goats that were born from elephants wear cowboy boots by default :-) Kidding. I don't mean to take this thread off topic but a few have raised concerns about NN3 so thought it best I step in. Some of the concerns I did understand customers having are two fold - level and compatibility. On the issue of the spirit level: The spirit levels on Nodal Ninja are very sensitive. A "little" drift is normal and generally not a concern or enough to cause problems stitching. As long as the first shot is level you should be good to go. Now that said - some earlier models on NN3 require proper tightening. You may simply need to tighten the rotator base. There is a wrong way and right way. Once properly tightened the unit should be both secure and should not wobble or unscrew (although we always recommend turning it in a clockwise manner) here is the procedure: a) Loosen the knob with "Nodal Ninja 3" marking, next loosen the inner lock screw on the knob. Once the knob is loosened, the silver lock screw is easy to loosen. You can loosen the screw with your finger. b) Tighten knob until you achieve the desired rotation tension or friction. You can note the amount of friction by holding the base rotator and turning the lower arm around in a "clockwise manner", as this prevents unscrewing of the base unit until locked with inner lock screw. It doesn't take much tightening at all. c) After the larger NN3 knob is tightened, tighten the inner (silver) lock screw with a screw driver or coin). This "locks" the tension of the rotator knob and it should not unscrew. You might have to do this a couple times to get the proper feel. Double check the tension against the click stop feel and readjust as needed. If the unit still has a tendency to unscrew try placing an extra Teflon washer (included with each NN) under the rotator knob (with Nodal Ninja markings) and repeat above steps. Proper tightening should enable the user to find a friction point that you feel comfortable with. This is actually a customizable option. Please please please consider upgrading to the updated NN3 MKII lower rotator (US$40). You will not be sorry. You can use your existing detent rings when doing an upgrade and the steps above would all be totally eliminated. The newer MKII rotator uses a well designed ball bearing system, rubber edged knobs and it's only two pieces. Mention this thread and I'll even refund US$20. On the issues full rotation up with some lenses and not others: NN3 was primarily built for smaller gear up to about 3kgs. The consumer need for a lightweight and compact head did come at the sacrifice of those using larger lenses not being able to achieve full 90 degree tilt up. So for those who may not be able to afford the NN5 there are some workarounds. If needing to do full 360x180 spherical panos and needing to shoot the zenith (up shot) you can simply loosen the camera and slide it on the upper rail just enough to allow for full rotation then tighten down before letting the camera slide back onto the rotator once pointed up. Any parallax encountered with this technique is negligible because 1 - you are usually pointing up to the sky or flat ceiling and 2 - the hole you are trying to fill is very small giving you more flexibility. Another workaround is simply to shoot manually, as most do, as many times the down shot is also down manually. Of course this does not work if you are bracketing shots or using slow shutter speeds. You could also shoot two rows - one row with a slight tilt up to catch the zenith (top) and one row with slight tilt down to catch the nadir (floor). For many this is not a big deal but thought I would share this. NN5L does not have this limitation. Hope this information helps - any questions or problems anyone might encounter please email directly for a fast fix: bill[at]nodalninja[dot]com. Thank you Bill

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Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2008, 16:58

NN3

Yes Bill,
your mentioned tightening of the center-knob is a mean thing to do against sag.

The workaround concerned th 90° up works only if you have 3 or 4mm max  missing.
But Martin made a kind of extender for me - gives me some 25 extra mm.Perfect with
Tokina 10-17 and a Canon 40D - all settings able to shoot +90° then with no loss of stbility.

This mounted on an Nodal Ninja RD12 - best value you can get.
RD12 is not needed for a Sigma 8 / Tokina ATX107 combo though :), RD8 would do.

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Freitag, 5. Dezember 2008, 16:10

Hi Mike,
Yes a few have added a little extension which seems to work ok if tightened down very well. The manufacturer of course cannot recommend the mod as it may compromise the integrity of design. That said those wanting to attempt this can use 2-3 extra camera plates (shhh).
The RD12 is excellent value and not much more in price to the RD8. Few using the NN3 have need for smaller detents of the R12 so this might explain why NN3-IIw/RD8 sells more than NN3w/RD12. And for NN5 the RD12 is certainly more popular than RD8 as it allows for much longer focal lengths.
thanks
Bill

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Freitag, 5. Dezember 2008, 20:25

RD12

Hi Bill,
I totally agree.
I was tempted to buy the RD8, but when you think about the efforts you have to take to get one in Germany (thanks to Mauro I got it from Italy very very fast !!), then you think of ab. 35 € to spend more for the RD12 - the best one can get today.

It really is a little "sensation" working with this rotator - especially if you are used to a worn out
old NN3 head :)))

Only think I wonder :
does the rotator to be taken apart when you want to lubricate the mechanics ???
This also should not be THE problem then I guess.